Здравствуйте, cShader, Вы писали:
S>Здравствуйте, LaFlour, Вы писали:
LF>>В сентябре набирают в MSN Team, а про февральский набор тока в декабре будет ясно
S>Так вроде бы для MSN Team очень специфический набор скиллзов нужен, они ведь просто так с улицы не берут (как было в прошлые годы), или я ошибаюсь? S>А февральский набор точно будет или пока нчего не известно вообще?
Да вроде они с улицы и в предыдущие годы никого не брали
Про февральский будет известно только в ноябре-декабре
LF>Да вроде они с улицы и в предыдущие годы никого не брали
Я не про это, понятно, что они и в прошлые годы не брали просто так с улицы, но для MSN Search Team, там уж совсем специфические требования, не просто опыт программирования и знание С/C++/C# и OPP, а еще и знание весьма специфической математики типа теории графов, параллельной обработки данных, статистики и т. п.
Здравствуйте, cShader, Вы писали:
LF>>Да вроде они с улицы и в предыдущие годы никого не брали
S>Я не про это, понятно, что они и в прошлые годы не брали просто так с улицы, но для MSN Search Team, там уж совсем специфические требования, не просто опыт программирования и знание С/C++/C# и OPP, а еще и знание весьма специфической математики типа теории графов, параллельной обработки данных, статистики и т. п.
в феврале этого года спрашивали почто тоже самое, графы были по крайней мере
Здравствуйте, cShader, Вы писали:
LF>>Да вроде они с улицы и в предыдущие годы никого не брали
S>Я не про это, понятно, что они и в прошлые годы не брали просто так с улицы, но для MSN Search Team, там уж совсем специфические требования, не просто опыт программирования и знание С/C++/C# и OPP, а еще и знание весьма специфической математики типа теории графов, параллельной обработки данных, статистики и т. п.
Теория графов со статистикой — это никакие не "весьма специфическая математика".
Вполне так стандартные разделы университетского курса.
B>Теория графов со статистикой — это никакие не "весьма специфическая математика". B>Вполне так стандартные разделы университетского курса.
Да, конечно, но здесь два момента, те вещи, которыми серьезно не занимаешься, очень быстро задвигаются в самые дальние уголки памяти, и во-вторых, знать в теории — это одно, а применять все это серьезно на практике — совершенно разные вещи (причем не в рамках решения семинарских задач)
Здравствуйте, cShader, Вы писали:
B>>Теория графов со статистикой — это никакие не "весьма специфическая математика". B>>Вполне так стандартные разделы университетского курса.
S>Да, конечно, но здесь два момента, те вещи, которыми серьезно не занимаешься, очень быстро задвигаются в самые дальние уголки памяти, и во-вторых, знать в теории — это одно, а применять все это серьезно на практике — совершенно разные вещи (причем не в рамках решения семинарских задач)
дело за малым — объяснить это тем кто будет проводить интервью =)
Если кому интересно вот инфа.
В сентябре MSN Search будет проводить интервью в Москве. Все желающие присылайте резюме на bestjobs@microsoft.com.
Интервью будут проводиться на следующие позиции:
Data Mining
Data Mining is a hot, new area, and we want a talented, highly motivated individual to join our growing Data Mining group. With all the data from the World Wide Web, we have endless potential to uncover patterns to help us improve our Search Engine, delight our customers, and confound our competition. This is an opportunity to use all kinds of leading-edge technologies, including machine-learning (Neural Networks, Support Vector Machines, Hidden Markov Models, etc.), Natural Language software, Parallel processing, and very large databases. You must be highly customer focused, and have several of the following qualifications: proven experience with C++; proven experience with object-oriented design; very solid coding/debugging skills; solid algorithmic skills; knowledge of SVMs, Neural Networks, HMMs, Decision Trees, etc. with in-depth knowledge of and practical experience with at least one or two of these; demonstrated success at dealing with ambiguous problems; and the ability to make solid progress when the solution is not well defined. Actual experience doing data mining is desirable, but not required. Basic knowledge of SQL is required. Masters CS or equivalent.
Spam Busting
Spam is one of the top killers of relevance for any search engine. Try the queries: valentine, big island or cialis to see this firsthand. Low quality, low relevance sites use several techniques to spam their way into search results. Spam adversely affects all areas of search -- crawl, data extraction, link-analysis, results ranking. We need someone to kill spam dead. As in the data mining area, this is an opportunity to use all kinds of leading-edge technologies, including machine-learning (SVMs, etc.), parallel processing, graph theory to tame this problem. The ideal candidate will combine strong software engineering skills with a solid background in one or more of these disciplines. Enthusiasm for reviewing the latest research, inventing new techniques, and doing rigorous experimental validation is required.
Results Ranking
The Ranking team develops the components that predict in a fraction of a second which of our 5 billion web documents will best answer a user's query. It is one of the highest impact and most technically challenging projects you will find anywhere in our industry. In collaboration with Microsoft Research, we explore cutting edge techniques from statistics, information retrieval, machine learning, and computational linguistics to attack this problem. The ideal candidate will combine strong software engineering skills with a solid background in one or more of these disciplines. Enthusiasm for reviewing the latest research, inventing new techniques, and doing rigorous experimental validation is required. Foreign language skills are also a plus.
Question Answering
Do you want a search engine that can answer your questions instead of returning a list of documents? This is one of our most technically ambitious projects, and we need a few exceptional SDEs who can make it a success. In collaboration with Microsoft Research, we will take a promising prototype and add innovations that dramatically improve its accuracy, coverage, and language portability. In addition to strong software engineering skills, the ideal candidate will have strengths in statistics, machine learning, and/or computational linguistics. Foreign language skills are also a plus.
Web Structure Analysis
The web has a complex structure that gives us valuable information about the popularity and authoritativeness of documents in our search index. Success in web search depends on harvesting as much information as we can from this massive source of data. This area is filled with fascinating technical challenges from distributed graph algorithms to pattern recognition, and because people are constantly trying new ways to manipulate search engine rankings, there are always new challenges. Candidates for this position should have a strong software engineering and computer science background that includes graph theory, distributed computing, performance optimization, probability and statistics, and machine learning.
Enabling Engineering Excellence
We are a growing team, with a growing v1 codebase. We are looking for someone to help us build tools to ensure that this is the best engineering team at Microsoft. You will be responsible for managing all aspects of our engineering excellence work -- laying out our future source management strategy, our build infrastructure, our branching methodology, the whole works.... You will take pride in raising development efficiency across the team, and in being the enabler of great search technology. You must have prior experience working in world-class build environment. You are a perl and sd gearhead. You take pride in your scripts, and in your ability to tame complex dependency problems.
Searchable Email
We need an engineer for a new project within the search group. The plan is to get something basic and useful out to the web as soon as we can, and then build on that through a series of quick releases. The team will start out small, just a few people, and with the right people we can keep it small. At scale, the product will run on hundreds of dedicated servers with new servers constantly being added. This kind of "go fast" project requires a good balance of "technology" thinking and "engineering" thinking. The "technology" thinking will be aimed at designing a low cost solution that can handle tens of thousands of requests/updates per second, 24/7, with multiple server failures. The "engineering" thinking will be aimed at designing simple components that are easy to test and can be updated independently so that we can achieve very short release cycles. Implementation will be not-too-fancy C++ running on 64 and 32 bit Windows Server platform. We'll be working from the code base developed for the new in-house MSN Search engine. Part of the project will involve enhancing the core technology, and part will be all new components specific to this project. We will strive for a balance between rapid progress on this project vs. building components that will become the platform for other new projects in the group. The project is connected to other efforts within MSN, so all project members will also be working with folks outside the project team. The project is very visible in its own right, but is not a "cowboy" project. We're all here to make MSN better. What we're looking for in a candidate: 3+ years server side experience, good C++, worked with multi-tier multi-server systems preferably web related, wrote software that handles high request rates, comfortable working directly with the OS, experience with complex performance tuning.
Grepping the web
The index server team is chartered with doing the 'search' in the web search, and doing it faster than a grep on a local file, and doing it for thousands of queries a second, over billions of documents over thousands of servers. Help us create, refine, innovate, and deploy software that defines the ability to provide user answers fast and reliably. We are responsible for the infrastructure that makes it possible to reliably and efficiently manage and process hundreds of terabytes of information. Along with query serving, this team also provides the platform to support relevance and data mining. You have at least a BS in CS or equivalent with several years of software development experience, a solid background in software development on multithreaded, high scale server systems. You should be comfortable working on a first generation, ambitious project with rapid development iterations and high reliability and performance standards.
Running the super computer
The autopilot team builds an infrastructure for MSN Search and other distributed applications. The main challenge is turning unreliable hardware and software into a reliable cluster with 99.9% uptime, only 9 to 5 operations support, and less than 1 operations person for maintaining 1000+ machines. Here are some of the problems you would help to solve: early detection of hardware and software failures; performance monitoring and analysis for the large volumes of computers; distributed applications scheduling and load balancing; messaging and data transfer protocols. Bottom line — we want to build a system that would let 10,000 commodity PCs work as a supercomputer. You have at least a BSCS or equivalent (MS/PhD preferred); 3 years of software development experience using C, C++ or C#; deep understanding
of object oriented design and practical experience at dealing with ambiguous problems.
Hand crafted results
When all else fails, and the ranking algorithms do not pass the confidence threshold, we fall back to delivering handcrafted results. Working on a team of approximately 132 other handcrafters in 26 worldwide markets, you will receive a user query, use all the available search engines to quickly scour the web for results, pick the top 10 results for this query, and send it on to the user. Successful handcrafters can typically find top 10 results for a real-time user's query in less than 3.8 seconds. This is an opportunity to truly connect with customers, because the queries that get routed to you are precisely the ones that the engine cannot answer well. We will have adequate staffing to allow generous coffee and bathroom breaks. If you are an expert at using at least 3 different search engines, well versed with American English/colloquial usage, and can type at > 149 words/minute as measured by the Simia-Lico method — come join us and delight users real-time!
Говорят, что будут брать не только выпускников как раньше, а и проффесиональных программистов.
Требования:
Software Design Engineer
Writes product code and solves complex problems. Proficient in C/C++/C#.
"You come in every morning and check up on what you've built the night before, see if you've broken anything, or if you've got any bugs to take care of. Right now I'm working on three different design features, so I've got maybe three status meetings a week to check in with everybody--the testers, the developers, the Program Managers, and together we figure out what we need to do. The core of my job is designing new features and figuring out how to get them to work. I loved that you could pursue an idea seriously in college and have other people around to talk to about it. I wanted to stay in a place like that. And Microsoft turned out to be that place."
Qualifications: A BA/BS or graduate degree in computer science or related technical discipline. Strong coding skills, proficiency in C/C++/C#, vision, and a passion for technical excellence.
Software Design Engineer in Test
Creates tools to test and improve products. Proficient in C/C++/C#.
"Essentially, the old notion was that as a tester," Jake explains, "you'd get a big chunk of code already written, and debug it. My team is trying to make computers more useful, so we're looking at everything in a new way: including testing. Here, I've been able to develop a smarter testing tool, which I'm trying to patent. And now, I spend a lot of time going around to other groups in the company, explaining the methodology and working with them to solve their own problems. I also make sure my product goes up bug free, and make sure a solution is created for any bugs before it launches. I meet with other teams and with Developers and Program Managers, and I write whitepapers. And I help to shape the product early on."
Qualifications: A BA/BS or graduate degree in computer science, electrical engineering or related technical discipline. Strong coding skills, proficiency in C/C++, Visual Basic experience, and a relentless attention to detail.
There are multiple positions open, so please share the information with someone as good as you are.
All positions are at our corporate headquarters in Redmond, Washington, USA. We do require functional level English language skills, written and spoken.
If you are interested, please email your CV in English to uwork@microsoft.com
Можно писать как на bestjobs так и на uwork. А лучше на оба.
Мне кинули ответ ..
только непонятно пригласят ли на финальное (18-22 сен) ..
все в процессе.
Там они теперь присылают задачки и их нужно за два часа решить.
Задачки как на интервью в феврале в приципе ...
Здравствуйте, Tiamer, Вы писали:
T>Мне кинули ответ .. T>только непонятно пригласят ли на финальное (18-22 сен) .. T>все в процессе. T>Там они теперь присылают задачки и их нужно за два часа решить. T>Задачки как на интервью в феврале в приципе ...
Здравствуйте, Tiamer, Вы писали:
T>Мне кинули ответ .. T>только непонятно пригласят ли на финальное (18-22 сен) .. T>все в процессе. T>Там они теперь присылают задачки и их нужно за два часа решить. T>Задачки как на интервью в феврале в приципе ...
Здравствуйте, LaFlour, Вы писали:
LF>Здравствуйте, Tiamer, Вы писали:
T>>Мне кинули ответ .. T>>только непонятно пригласят ли на финальное (18-22 сен) .. T>>все в процессе. T>>Там они теперь присылают задачки и их нужно за два часа решить. T>>Задачки как на интервью в феврале в приципе ...
LF>А как проверяют что за 2 часа решил?
Привет старым знакомым !
Они шлют тебе мейл(с тремя задачами)
и ждут ответа в течении двух часов.
Здравствуйте, pavel_turbin, Вы писали:
_>Здравствуйте, Tiamer, Вы писали:
T>>Мне кинули ответ .. T>>только непонятно пригласят ли на финальное (18-22 сен) .. T>>все в процессе. T>>Там они теперь присылают задачки и их нужно за два часа решить. T>>Задачки как на интервью в феврале в приципе ...
_>интересно, какие задачи сейчас в моде?
Да те же что и год назад и два года назад.
Алгоритические(связные списки, строки, графы, деревья) c++.
Здравствуйте, Tiamer, Вы писали:
T>Здравствуйте, LaFlour, Вы писали:
LF>>Здравствуйте, Tiamer, Вы писали:
T>>>Там они теперь присылают задачки и их нужно за два часа решить. T>>>Задачки как на интервью в феврале в приципе ...
LF>>А как проверяют что за 2 часа решил?
T>Привет старым знакомым !
салют
T>Они шлют тебе мейл(с тремя задачами) T>и ждут ответа в течении двух часов.
т.е заранее надо время обговаривать?
Задачки на февральские хоть похожи?
Здравствуйте, Tiamer, Вы писали:
T>Мне кинули ответ .. T>только непонятно пригласят ли на финальное (18-22 сен) .. T>все в процессе. T>Там они теперь присылают задачки и их нужно за два часа решить. T>Задачки как на интервью в феврале в приципе ...
а у тебя специфические скиллзы, которые в требованиях вроде как указаны, ну типа нейросетей, параллельной обработки и т.п. есть, или можно без всего этого пытаться пробиться?
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