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Сообщение Re[2]: Случаются ли скидки на компоненты DevExpress? от 14.01.2021 13:17

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Re[2]: Случаются ли скидки на компоненты DevExpress?
Здравствуйте, amironov79, Вы писали:

A>Наверное, потому что это работает не так хорошо, как рассказывают в рекламе.


Особенно Blazor у них не работает как в рекламе:

Jaime Alvarez
Hi, Unfortunately even though the devexpress components are excellent they do not have clear release dates and requests for new requirements sometimes take years to implement or are never implemented.
Specifically for blazor components the minimum one expects is that they have the basic functionalities that their components have or to what we are used to, for example:
Online editing, export to Excel, I can't imagine a PivotGrid without drill down.
When you ask when these characteristics will be, the answer is always we don't know and we can't give you any date ... can you imagine us responding in the same way to our clients?
Greetings and I am a fan of DevExpress but their response times make us look to other components
4 November 2020


Matt Beckius
I have been using DevExpress products for over 20 years now, and I want to use your Blazor components to port a large application It would be a natural fit, because the product makes extensive use of your Winforms components, as well as the MVC components.
I have been anxiously following the development of your Blazor components from the start. With each release you are making progress, but it seems that you are not keeping up with the competition. I hope that how that you see that Blazor is here to stay, that you accelerate the development of your Blazor products.
Kind Regards,
Matt B.
9 November 2020


Ashish Moradiya AN
I have worked with Devexpress components since 7 years, And I am having great experience playing with it. I am expecting same for blazor components. but my recent experience is not very great. Here I has to be agree with Jaime and other few respondents from this blog. I faced issues like
Grid rendering is very slow
poor sorting performance
For components like sidebar need to look somewhere else
Not enough distinction on implementing feature while using blazor server vs blazor wasm documentation wise.
No clear roadmap/estimation from support leads to nowhere
For people like me who just needs blazor components, pricing plan isn't seems suitable. (I have considered blazor for my development needs, that means I want to stay away from Javascript components, but it ships in same pricing plan. and surprisingly devextreme plan is separated)
30 November 2020

https://community.devexpress.com/blogs/aspnet/archive/2020/11/04/data-grid-for-blazor-group-and-total-summary-column-resize-fixed-columns-and-more-available-in-v20-2.aspx
http://www.freezepage.com/1610630013NXTKNXISUX

Крупная компания — лидер в WinForms и не может угнаться хотя бы за бесплатными Blazor конкурентами типа Syncfusion, это же смишно.
Ну сделайте тогда удобные универсальные интерфейсы к XAF для подключения Blazor компонентов других вендоров типа Syncfusion, Telerik и т.п.
Наивно думать, что пользователи прям не знают о существовании конкурентов и будут тупо ждать пока DevExpress родит и доведет до кондиции свои Blazor компоненты. Они кстати и MVC так же тянули время, насколько я помню, Telerik в вебе всегда был впереди них.
Но IMHO все же WinForms у DevExpress самые лучшие.
Re[2]: Случаются ли скидки на компоненты DevExpress?
Здравствуйте, amironov79, Вы писали:

A>Наверное, потому что это работает не так хорошо, как рассказывают в рекламе.


Особенно Blazor у них не работает как в рекламе:

Jaime Alvarez
Hi, Unfortunately even though the devexpress components are excellent they do not have clear release dates and requests for new requirements sometimes take years to implement or are never implemented.
Specifically for blazor components the minimum one expects is that they have the basic functionalities that their components have or to what we are used to, for example:
Online editing, export to Excel, I can't imagine a PivotGrid without drill down.
When you ask when these characteristics will be, the answer is always we don't know and we can't give you any date ... can you imagine us responding in the same way to our clients?
Greetings and I am a fan of DevExpress but their response times make us look to other components
4 November 2020


Matt Beckius
I have been using DevExpress products for over 20 years now, and I want to use your Blazor components to port a large application It would be a natural fit, because the product makes extensive use of your Winforms components, as well as the MVC components.
I have been anxiously following the development of your Blazor components from the start. With each release you are making progress, but it seems that you are not keeping up with the competition. I hope that how that you see that Blazor is here to stay, that you accelerate the development of your Blazor products.
Kind Regards,
Matt B.
9 November 2020


Ashish Moradiya AN
I have worked with Devexpress components since 7 years, And I am having great experience playing with it. I am expecting same for blazor components. but my recent experience is not very great. Here I has to be agree with Jaime and other few respondents from this blog. I faced issues like
Grid rendering is very slow
poor sorting performance
For components like sidebar need to look somewhere else
Not enough distinction on implementing feature while using blazor server vs blazor wasm documentation wise.
No clear roadmap/estimation from support leads to nowhere
For people like me who just needs blazor components, pricing plan isn't seems suitable. (I have considered blazor for my development needs, that means I want to stay away from Javascript components, but it ships in same pricing plan. and surprisingly devextreme plan is separated)
30 November 2020

https://community.devexpress.com/blogs/aspnet/archive/2020/11/04/data-grid-for-blazor-group-and-total-summary-column-resize-fixed-columns-and-more-available-in-v20-2.aspx
http://www.freezepage.com/1610630013NXTKNXISUX

Крупная компания — лидер в WinForms и не может угнаться хотя бы за бесплатными Blazor конкурентами типа Syncfusion, это же смишно.
Ну сделайте тогда удобные универсальные интерфейсы к XAF для подключения Blazor компонентов других вендоров типа Syncfusion, Telerik и т.п.
Наивно думать, что пользователи прям не знают о существовании конкурентов и будут тупо ждать, пока DevExpress родит и доведет до кондиции свои Blazor компоненты. Они кстати и MVC так же тянули время, насколько я помню, Telerik в вебе всегда был впереди них.
Но IMHO все же WinForms у DevExpress самые лучшие.

Получается, для DevExpress XAF имеем бесплатную open source альтернативу CSLA.NET, правда которую еще нужно довелосипедить до редактора модели.
Для DevEpress Blazor есть масса альтернатив в т.ч. бесплатный Synfusion, который сильно лучше.

И зачем тогда DevEpress, кроме как для WinForms?